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15 Dec 2006, 4:25 PM farm-advice Joined on 09 Nov 2005 Posts 449 Where to get plastic piling for grip blocking or raising water levels in ditches? The interlocking Plastic Piling blocking moorland grips shown  on the RSPB advisory sheet looks both effective and easy to fit. However, neither on the advisory sheet nor on the internet, can I find a contact for actual purchase of the stuff. It also looks as if it would be suitable for blocking up drains, or field ditches in lowland situations, where one wants to achieve raised water levels in a field to encourage a wet grassland habitat. Can you send me any information on who supplies the Plastic Piling, dimensions etc. and possibility for using more than one layer to block a deeper drain or peat pipe?    Report

18 Dec 2006, 4:12 PM sarahd Joined on 05 Sep 2006 Posts 33 Re: Where to get plastic piling for grip blocking or raising water levels in ditches? Hi. This isn't something I've had to have a go at before, however the link below is to a company that specialise in plastic products, and they create plastic piling and all the bits that go with it. There's some good info on the site and they are relatively easy to get hold of for more specific information. Hope this helps. Sarah www.hlplasticsltd.co.uk/piling.html    Report

10 Jan 2007, 10:25 AM KJRobinson Joined on 10 Jan 2007 Posts 2 Re: Where to get plastic piling for grip blocking or raising water levels in ditches? Attachment: Two styles of plastic piling.JPG Hi everyone, We have quite a lot of experience up here in the Flow Country with using plastic piling to raise water levels in ditches.  We have used two different makes of piling, including those of HL Plastics.  I can highly recommend this company (no, I'm not on the payroll!) as we have always found them to be professional and helpful, and the product is robust and easy to work with.  The other company we have used in Bendex Plastics, who are based in Manchester (tel: 0161 7778070/fax: 0161 7778886/email plasticpiling@aol.com) who produce a slightly different style of piling which is cheaper but we have had more breakages using these, and our contractors complain that they are less easy to carry around. Overall, the costs probably even out.  Dimensions for both are about 300mm wide and 2.4kg/m.  They can be cut to length to whatever the customer specifies. I have attached an image of the two types of piling side by side.  The Bendex one is on the left and the HL Plastics on the right. We have certainly found plastic piling dams very effective if installed correctly.  The ideal tool for the job is a large rubber mallet (ours are about 12" long by 6"diameter) which can be hard to come by.  Otherwise an ordinary mallet will do if you put something between the pile and the mallet when bashing them in (like a bit of wood), to absorb some of the shock and avoid breakages.  They are very quick to install, and robust, although not easy to remove if you need to.  We have made dams up to 5 piles wide with no problems, but other dams bigger than this would need bracing with a plank of wood. Hope this helps, if anyone would like any more specific information please feel free to email me. Katy Robinson RSPB Forsinard Peatlands Reserve Officer      Report

10 Jan 2007, 6:24 PM RichardC Joined on 04 Nov 2006 Posts 5 Re: Where to get plastic piling for grip blocking or raising water levels in ditches? Katy - Do you mean what I'd call a rubber beetle? I've got them from BTCV in the past, and also see them from time to time in farm supplies stores such as SCATS. http://shop.btcv.org.uk/shop/level3/22/level (listed as "maul, rubber head"). I find before use they need whipping around each face to keep the rubber from chipping -- takes a few minutes, but then lasts many times longer. Good for knocking in stakes when there's no room for a "bonker" (eg short pegs). Richard    Report

11 Jan 2007, 4:00 PM KJRobinson Joined on 10 Jan 2007 Posts 2 Re: Where to get plastic piling for grip blocking or raising water levels in ditches? That's the one!  Thanks for the supply info and handy tip.  We haven't had any problems with ours but then most of our work is done by contractor!     Report

10 Dec 2007, 4:34 PM MiniAPE Joined on 10 Dec 2007 Posts 1 Re: Where to get plastic piling for grip blocking or raising water levels in ditches? Attachment: Installing multilock with copy.JPG Plastic Piling is now available from APE Plastic Piling. APE has the most extensive range of plastic sheet piles, all new generation designs. more rigid so easier to install and tighter interlocks so less water leakage. Two of our product the Europile and MultiLock are becoming firm favorites. The Euorpile has the same coverage of Z piles when used in a ribbed format (all the same way) yet even at this coverage as the strength of common Z piles used in the box configuration. The interlock of the Europile faces the water pressure to ensure watertightness and so it is the best standard pile around. The MultiLock is a novel 500mm wide section that has two tubular section through which can be driven timber reinforcements. This makes the sections much stronger, no to mention that shorter lengths can be used, as the timber forms the retaining structure, the piles simply a screen. See our website www.miniape.com or tel 01543 277680    Report

02 Mar 2010, 3:49 PM Nick Droy Joined on 07 Dec 2005 Posts 8 Re: Where to get plastic piling for grip blocking or raising water levels in ditches? Hi there Take a look at the the Water Management Structures for Conservation case study series on the RSPB website. One of the examples illustrated uses plastic piling. Available as a free download here www.rspb.org.uk/sluices Staffs WT have also used them to create simple control structures to good effect. I have more info if you need it. Best wishes Nick Droy RSPB Wetlands Advisor      Report

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